Welcome everyone to the latest Quote File. The Quote File is basically the "best and brightest" of rec.arts.drwho - that is, the funniest quotes to appear in the newsgroup as nominated by *you*. To that end, if you see a quote you think derserves an entry in the Quote File, just mail me at smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca or the handy-dandy radwquotefile@geocities.com and include the attributions and the quote in full. Since this newsgroup is more than full of it's fair share of off-topic/pointless stuff, I'd like to request that you *don't* waste bandwidth by shouting "Quote File!" in the newsgroup - email it to me instead! Please don't be shy about this - even if you only think it's mildly funny, I'd *much* rather have too many to choose from than too few. Also, please note that all dates are approximations only (ie when they got emailed to me, rather than when they got posted). Disclaimer: The copyright of all material contained herein remains with the original poster. No attempt is made to supercede any copyright and the Quote File maintains its impartiality under Fair Use for purposes of Comment or Review. On with the quotes! -------------------------------------------------- John Long (jlbc@epix.net> wrote: >But really, there will come a day when I won't accept anymore corny >insults. Pineapple. Cheapskate. Pertwee Fan. Just getting some in now, before you decide that day's arrived. Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> 11/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Mattheq (mattheq@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > So...why did the daleks call him Bringer of Darkness? The Doctor is called the Bringer of Darkness because of his habit of putting his hat over the Daleks' eye-stalks. Jesse Smith (jdsmith@wco.com> 11/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> wrote >As my new slogan has it: Moderation in all things! But not too much. David McIntee (master@sol.co.ukDEATH-TO-SPAMMERS> 18/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Kate Orman (korman@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au> wrote: >>For another, this is a false dilemma. Faced with a negative review, >>an author doesn't just have two choices, "Shrug it off" or "Go >>berserk". :-) Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> wrote: > The third choice is...? Dear Magazine Book-Reviewer, Thank you for your review of my novel, "The is the Title of my Novel". I appreciate you taking the time to review it. Unfortuately, I am sorry to hear that you disliked it so. I do appreciate your criticism and hope that my subsequent novels will pass your muster. However, I feel that I must correct a number of inaccuracies which appeared in your review. You mention that you didn't understand how Sam managed to get the chainsaw with which she cut off the Master's head; well, if you read page 181 more carefully, you will notice that she grabbed it from the dead logger after he tried to attack the tree creature. Furthermore, you complain that the Doctor wouldn't swear as he did on page 149. However, if you look at page 170 of Kate Orman's recent novel, "Arse of the Bugger Man", the Doctor launched into a far stronger tirade that actually prompted BBC Books to put a parental warning sticker on the cover. I am curious how you would complain about my use of the word "cruk" and not mention Kate's use of many more words in your previous review. Thank you once again for taking the time to review my book. I hope that the above clarifications lay to rest any concerns you have about my novel. Yours sincerely, James Bow (jbow@mks.com> 19/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- (the_schocks@msn.com> wrote: >Hey, sombody with brains help me. >I have tried since my childhood to figure out how Pi applies to that >checkerboard death trap in the Dark Tower in "The Five Doctors". It just >doesn't make any sense! Actually it doesn't. The Doctor was, in fact, refering to the scrumdillidumptious Gallifreyan Take and Microwave Pie. The box it came in had children's puzzles on the back. Apparently, Rassilon wasn't very imaginative and copied one puzzle verbatim into his tower. Micheal (Chris) Keane (aexia@u.washington.edu> 21/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- (bfulton@ibm.net> wrote: >For those who noticed I left, I'm back. For those who didn't, I'm back >anyway. >Because there's flippin' almost 1700 message on the newsgroup right now >and I don't have the time to read them all, would anyone care to update >me on the latest? Besides Jon Pertwee and homophobia...I did catch that >one. What you people get up to is beyond me. Jon Blum and Kate Orman have had a huge falling out over Kill-files, Keith Topping has become the Reviews Editor of TV Zone, Lance Parkin and David McIntee were arrested sneaking into Buckinham Palace, dressed as a pantomime horse, with the expressed intention of stealing the Stone of Scone (They were confused, apparently). Gary Russel has been named the new James Bond for the next film, "Eight Arms to Throttle You," and John Peel has been outed in the Sunday Times: Seems he really _is_ Ben Aaronovitch! See what you miss when you don't pay attention? Leviathan (jsheen@leviathanstudios.com> 21/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Songs from The Web Planet: The Grubs Don't Work ('They just make it worse.') It's Raining Menoptera. Isop The Sherrif. Zarbi Girl. ('Come on Zarbi/Let's go party') Hrostars On 45. Animus In The UK. Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> 24/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Andrew Vogel (andrew7@erols.com> wrote: >>>Either Keith is joking, in which case he should indicate it with a >>>smiley, Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>No I shouldn't - why should I have to signpost humour? Ridiculous. >>Comedians don't stand up with a cardboard sign saying "Joke - Laugh >>Now!" Andrew Vogel (andrew7@erols.com> wrote: >Comedians don't need to, they work in comedy clubs, and everyone knows >beforehand that what they are saying is intended to be humor. >You're not a professional comedian Oh I don't know. I read Devil Goblins... Gary Russell (gaz-john@dircon.co.uk> 24/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Naff Cliffhangers] Death to the Daleks, part 3. The Doctor says "Stop, don't move" with some urgency, when confronted by some interesting floor tiles - betraying a hither-to unseen interest in interior design. Gregg Smith (eng6gcgs@aol.com> 29/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Naff Cliffhangers] 'The Sontaran Experiment', Part One (of two) "Christ almighty, a Sontaran! Who'd have thought it?" Lance Parkin (ljparkin@aol.com> 30/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- Really? Daleks are infallible, Krotons are rather silly? Mind you, getting killed by one must be highly embarrassing. *Sitting in the afterlife* "How did you die?" "I was struck by a Dalek battletank, it grabbed me and squashed me to pulp before shooting me with it's ray gun. What about you?" "Well I... Erm. Got kind of, killed by a Kroton - But it was a commander!" Sad. Peter Goddard (peterg@strodes.ac.uk> 29/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- I often wonder what would have happened if the colonist's sheep had wandered into the blue crystal mountains before the spiders - somehow Sarah running around with a giant invisible sheep clinging to her back just wouldn't have had the same drama. James Milton (jmilton@guess.who.net> 31/12/97 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: 1 January 1998] The Doctor wrote: > > I post this from the party at 1:26 a.m. GMT and 6:21 p.m. MST 31 Dec 1997. > > Happy New Year one and all. > > Don't go away yet, the party will finish, BUT ..... > > And Alden what about posting the 1997 stats?? > -- > Merry Christmas 1997 and Happy New Year 1998 > http://www.nl2k.ab.ca/~doctor > Save the World and Civilization; REPUBLICS DISSOLVE! I just wanted to be 1998's first person to re-post someone else's post in its entirety, and add nothing of value to the thread. Somehow, it seems appropriate. Peter Anghelides (peter-anghelides-no-spam@mcmail.com> 1/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Why was Susan so wimpy?] Wouldn't you be a wimp if you had William Hartnell threatening to spank you on national television? Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> 1/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Dangermouse (master@sol.co.uk> writes >>Actually the reason Hearst's estate was so pissed off and tried to get >>Citizen Kane banned is because they knew that Welles knew that "rosebud" >>was what Hearst called his lover's (or wife's, I forget which) clitoris. Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I never knew that, Dave, thanks for sharing it with us whilst I was in > the middle of my tea... "Tea" is Keith's euphemism for sexual intercourse, by the way. (Orson Welles told me this.) Puts a whole new spin on "The Time Monster" for me. Peter Anghelides (peter-anghelides@mcmail.com> 2/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Peter Anghelides (peter-anghelides@mcmail.com> wrote: >"Tea" is Keith's euphemism for sexual intercourse, by the way. >(Orson Welles told me this.) Puts a whole new spin on "The Time >Monster" for me. I believe he likes it with two lumps. Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> 2/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- >>Ick..now this makes me wonder HOW Dodo got that sexually transmitted >>disease! Brigadier Nathan Rogers (jlrogers@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >From a Missing Adventure. Didn't she practice safe reading? David McIntee (master@sol.co.ukDEATH-TO-SPAMMERS> 3/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Peter Anghelides wrote: >>>Elsewhere in the letter, Levine does not >>>spare the former DW team from criticism, >>>stating that B5 has a magic "that was >>>missing in almost the entire tenure of >>>John Nathan-Turner as producer." Graham Nelson (graham@gnelson.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>Ah, I get it, has Mr Levine fallen out with JNT? John Carlson (J.Carlson@cableinet.co.uk> wrote: >If you don't already know that happend around TOATL Well, I didn't know that. Any specific reason? Given the number of people who fell out with JNT at that time, perhaps we should feel sorry for him... just imagine being left with no friends in the whole world except Pip & Jane Baker and Bonnie Langford, and then having to produce a science fiction programme. Graham Nelson (graham@gnelson.demon.co.uk> 4/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- John Long (jlbc@epix.net> wrote: >>Are you sure you don't want to see my favorite nude pic of Katy Manning? Azaxyr (azaxyr@aol.com> wrote: >I never found her to be very attractive anyway. And somewhere, Katy Manning breathes a sigh of relief. Ben Varkentine (saulchurch@aol.com> 5/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Naff Cliffhangers] Death to the Daleks; "Thtop! Don't move!" (aka Terror of the Crazy Paving) Mysterious Planet; "I really think this could be the end!" (aka Wishful Thinking of the Audience) Timeflight; "The Master has finally defeated me!" (aka And Live Monkeys Might Fly Out Of My Arse) Rob Stradling (templar@tardis.org> 5/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Rob Stradling (templar@tardis.org> wrote: >Timeflight; "The Master has finally defeated me!" >(aka And Live Monkeys Might Fly Out Of My Arse) Which would actually be quite a brilliant cliffhanger in it's own right, come to think of it... Ben Varkentine (saulchurch@aol.com> 5/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Dave Stone (dave@sgloomi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >It depends. Without giving the game away too much, what about a >frantic race through the entire history of the human race, each >section told in the style of the relevent time ... I can see it now: CHAPTER ONE Oook. Ook ook, grunt. Snort, grunt, oook. TARDIS. Oook. Or maybe you weren't planning on going quite that far back? William December Starr (wdstarr@crl.com> 5/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Realistic language in BBC books?] Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> wrote: > (we've got away with "bullshit" in The Hollow >Men...) I'm sure-but were you allowed to curse? Ben Varkentine (saulchurch@aol.com> 6/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- I forwarded the "The Kipper of Traken" joke-let to my brother the other day (it's a recipe title from a Dr Who cookbook, apparently), and he came right back with more. Perhaps it should be called The Greatest Chow in the Galaxy? My suggestions... The Dalek's Master Flan The Clams of Axos The Prawns of Nimon The Flour of the Daleks The Thyme Meddler The Macceral Terror The Paste Museum And for the Vegans on Varos: (Broccolli) Spearhead from Space The Bunfighters Toast Light (for those on a diet) and of course The Croutons... How about Marco Polos for after dinner mints? Not to mention: Galaxy Four Pyramids of Mars, The Ice Cream Warriors? (but they will put your teeth into a State of Decay) (All by Toby Nelson.) Graham Nelson (graham@gnelson.demon.co.uk> 6/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- These occurred while perusing my spice rack; The Curse Of Fenugreek Coriander Bannermen The Invasion of Thyme Cumin Nature Bay of the Daleks The Leisure Chive The Garlic Masterplan The Mint Robber Rob Sradling (templar@tardis.org> 7/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- M Elizabeth (rogersfam@msn.com> wrote: >>>Read Jim Mortimore's "Eternity Weeps" and shudder at the fate of Liz. >>>Victoria doesn't have too good a time in "Downtime." And God knows what >>>Keith Topping has in store for Barbara and Ian :)! Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk) writes: >>Marriage and childbirth, basically! Alden Bates (alden@bates.wn.planet.WHAP.gen.nz) wrote: >Oh, the humanity! How could you make those poor people suffer like >that, Keith, you heartless bastard! >Oh, wait... >Whups... What is Ian going to look like when he's nine months pregnant? Brad Filippone (al019@chebucto.ns.ca> 6/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Something I Liked About The Dinosaur Era] Charles Daniels wrote: > KLAKKK! KLAK-K-K!! Yes, I never could work out why Achilleos spelt it with a silent 'L'... Rob Stradling (templar@tardis.org> 7/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Chris Krisocki (chrisk@webtv.net> wrote: >Just finished watching Part One of The Ribos Operation from my Fox Video >copy. This time I left the closed captions on the entire episode, and >there are loads of really funny captioning errors. To wit: >- Romana's name is Romanadveradnaluna >- the planet "Galafree" By virtue of the FACT that these appeared IN TEXT in a broadcast episode of Doctor Who, am I now hereby declaring them CANON. Right, my first act shall be to petulantly write messrs. L'Officier and Howe-Stammers-Walker and point out their gross error. After that, I shall write a longish letter to Gary Gillatt stating that fans clearly don't know what they're talking about; it's all right there on the closed captioning for anyone who wants to read it! Finally, I shall have a very stern chat with the mothers of Mr Dicks and Mr G. Roberts about how their sons' novels are continuing to help ruin these "proper" titles. Last, having achieved victory, I shall go on to forge ... I mean FIND documentation that digs up yet ANOTHER name for the first transmitted episode and the third broadcast story, and insist that THIS is the right one. And Adrian Rigelsford will dig up an interview with Hartnell in which he agrees with me. Charles Martin (chas_m@bigfoot.com> 6/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- (marky@shoutmag.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Not that I'm saying, categorically, that there is NO WAY that >antimatter could have 'behaved' in the way it does in PoE (future >science may prove the story correct), but no extrapolation of current >matter/antimatter theories could have it behaving like that.... >...unless someone knows differently...!! :)) Oh yes see there's anti-matter, imaginary anti-matter, and a very rare form called "wacky anti-matter" and wacky anti-matter is really amazing as it can be carried around in toffee tins and do science fictiony things to people. Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> 10/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Blum wrote: >And if nothing else, thanks to this thread I can >now say that within a two-week period I've been compared to everyone from >Adolf Hitler to Ian Levine... Quit the doughnuts and lose the moustache, Jon. Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 9/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- >William December Starr (wdstarr@crl.com> wrote: >>"Ormanblum?" Wouldn't "Blorman" roll off the tongue more easily? >>(Or possibly "Blurman," except that sounds like a really pathetic >>superhero...) Sean Gaffney (gaffney@iconn.net> wrote: >Hey, the street's like a jungle, can't call the police, whadya do? >It's BLURMAN!!! 'Look! Up in the sky' 'Is it a bird?' 'Is it a plane?' 'Er... dunno, can't quite make it out' 'Then it must be - BLURMAN!' Russ Massey (russ@wriding.demon.co.uk> 8/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Dangermouse (master@sol.co.ukDEATH-TO-SPAMMERS> wrote: >You can't say fuck shit or cunt, That last one must be annoying. 'I say we can!' 'And I say we...er...not can.' Urac Sigma (ratbat@rocketmail.com> 6/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Aidan Alexander Folkes wrote: >So why can't we have a series of novels like the Star Trek acadamy ones Well, from our "Questions that answer themselves, really." category... Ben Varkentine (saulchurch@aol.com> 9/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Krytenpd (krytenpd@aol.com> wrote: >>I've just finished "Invasion of the Cat-People", and I really enjoyed it! >>Wonderfully written and entertaining. The cliffhanger at the end of >>Ep. 5 was almost unbearable. >>A well-done masterpiece! Gary Russell (gary@dircon.co.uk> wrote: >Bless you So, you reckon it was the sneezing that made him enjoy it then? Keith Topping (keith@tooon.demon.co.uk> 9/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Something I like about the McCoy Era] jonno (huntjoh@gw.startribune.com> wrote: >I love his Doctor, and I love that last season, but I >will NOT get behind a busload of alien tourists in the 1950s, not if you >paid me. Neither will I. They're always driving slowly to look at the scenery, or stopping short after nearly passing some scenic point, or weaving in and out of traffic... they're menaces, I tell you! UNIT should do something about it. Corey Klemow (CKlemow@compuserve.com> 9/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Peter Anghelides (peter-anghelides@mcmail.com> wrote: >In other, simpler words, I think that simple language is much >undervalued. Invariable recourse to polysyllabic discourse merely >promotes obfuscation, which patently should be eschewed in the >continuing efforts to ameliorate the communication vicissitudes >incumbent on textual multinational interlocution. Pip! Pip! I thought we'd never hear from you again! Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> 9/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Brian Glen Palicia wrote: >Anyone ever use a funny line from a Doctor Who story on >someone and get a good comeback? Yes, I once told a school bully that he was "a classic example of the inverse ratio of the size of mouth to the size of brain". He smashed my face in, which I thought was quite an effective riposte. Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 12/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Mariane Desautels wrote: > >John "Troller" Long wrote: >>Nah, the fifth doctor is too wimpy to outright reject the master's >>trust. > >Ever watched The Caves of Androzani? Sure, but I don't discuss Caves with trolls. John Long (jlbc@epix.net> 11/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [The Space Museum: Episode 2] "The Dimensions of Time" begins with a short scene of the TARDIS crew standing around looking like they've all been hit over the head. "They're gone!" says Barbara. "And we've arrived!" replies the Doctor. Ah, that explains everything. The next scene informs us that we're on Zeros, the famous Planet of Eyebrow People. Three Moroks -- about half the population of the planet -- briefly discuss how bored they are. Meanwhile, three Wesley Crusher clones are fomenting revolution. They decide they need to track down the four people who've just shown up in the museum that appears to comprise the entire planet. Elsewhere, Ian steals a gun from a glass case. In a demonstration of just the kind of keen intellectual powers posessed by the second season regulars, he playfully points it at Barbara, Vicki, and the Doctor and then tells the latter worriedly that he "could have blown a hole" in him. The crew argue for a few minutes about what to do. "The fact is the future," says the Doctor. "Yes," replies Ian, "I see what you mean." Somehow, they come to the conclusion that if they leave they'll end up in the cases. There is some consternation over the fact that Ian has lost a button. Moving on, the four attempt to locate the entrance. The crew argue about which direction to take. Barbara observes that "actually, all the corridors look alike" and the Doctor helpfully points out that "you have to turn right before you can turn left." This seemed to go on for hours, although it was probably only about a minute. It sounded like the cast was improvising. Around this point I went to the kitchen to put away a glass. While I was away, I heard goofy danger music, and when I got back, the Doctor was lying on the floor with the Wesley Crusher Trio standing over him. The leader suggests to the dorkiest one that he stand guard over the Doctor while the others wander off. When they return, the guard is bound and gagged on the floor. The Doctor is gone. "He was like a whirlwind!" says Dorky Guy. The Crushers leave, and there is a pan to an unexplained Dalek. It babbles something in a high pitched voice, and the Doctor pops out, giggling. Meanwhile, the rest of the crew has been wandering in circles. (How did these people ever find their way in in the first place?) Ian decides to unravel Barbara's cardigan to mark their trail. In another demonstration of just the kind of keen intellectual powers posessed by the second season regulars, he tries to do this with his teeth. After a moment, Barbara has a flash of inspiration -- she can use Ian's penknife! Barbara has a keen tactical mind. A few minutes later, the Crushers show up and follow the thread. I guess it's not like they have anything better to do. In another part of the museum, the Doctor comes upon a chair and sits down. He is strapped in by a metal seatbelt, which he doesn't notice until he tries to get up. A couple of doors open up about two feet in front of his face. (I'm sure they weren't there a moment ago.) They reveal a Morok, who sounds like he's going to pitch condominiums at the Doctor (he begins with something like "Welcome to beautiful Zeros!"). Instead, he interrogates the Doctor using a machine that shows thoughts. This is a pity, as the condominium idea might actually have been more interesting. Miraculously, the rest of the crew finds the entrance. They open it and we see them peering out of the door. The scene is badly overexposed. We hear a crowd muttering somewhere. "They have the TARDIS!" cries Barbara. *Who* has the TARDIS? Where is it? We never find out. The Morok asks the Doctor where he comes from. The screen shows stock footage of walruses, which must have been the first thing the director grabbed out of the vault. Dr: These are some good friends of mine! Morok: But you're not an amphibian! Dr (Knowingly): Oh no? Then, for some reason, the screen seems to show someone in a jumpsuit and a cowboy hat. Angered, the Morok decides to make the Doctor into an exhibit. There are two more episodes of this next week. God help us all. M. Wesley Osam (wosam@iastate.edu> 11/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: A Pertwee moderated newsgroup] Azaxyr (azaxyr@aol.com> wrote: > 1. No twerps, pricks, losers, adolescent brats, or cry-babies allowed. So... no, it's like shooting fish in a barrel really. Paul Cornell (paul@cornell.demon.co.uk> 11/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Keith Topping wrote: >>>>A likely tale - anyway, I've got Kursaal now >>>Best wishes for a speedy recovery, mate. They can do wonders these days. Keith Topping wrote: >>The cream worked very well thank you, I am no longer infected... Lorrill Buyens (buyensl@primenet.com> wrote: >Want to come up to my place for a little bouncy-bouncy? I presume you've got a Parks and Amenities license for that inflatable castle? Dave Stone (dave@sgloomi.demon.co.uk> 12/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: What ever happened to Gareth Jenkins?] >What did ever become of our little >'Jim 'll Fix it' fanboy? Dunno, but his twin sister Jackie writes for DWM. Lance Parkin (ljparkin@aol.com> 13/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Erin Tumilty (Tumilty@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >>If this was a spoiler for something I haven't read >>yet, I shall be very angry, and when I get angry I >>start singing Monty Python filks at the top of my >>lungs. It's not pretty. Nick Caldwell wrote: >Now this is something you don't see every day. >*Nick pulls out comfy chair and settles down to watch* *ahem* There are fans in the world Who are trekkers There are X-philes and Smegheads and then There are those that follow Blakes 7 but I've never been one of them I'm a Doctor Who fan And I have been since the day I saw Tom And the one thing they say about Who fans is They'll watch any ep that is on It don't have to be with Jon Pertwee It don't have to have a great script It don't have to have mini-skirted girls In blouses that accent their-- acting talents Beeee-cuzzzzzzzz- Every ep is sacred Every ep is great If a story's slagged off We fans get quite irate (timetot chorus> Every ep is sacred Every story great If an ep is slagged off The fans get quite irate (Young Susan> Let the beeb destroy them And fling them to the ground God shall make them pay For each ep that can't be found (timetot chorus> Every ep is wanted Every ep is good Every ep is needed In your neighborhood Lost-in-Spacers, Msties Get their shows everywhere But Who fans end up deprived It really isn't fair (Spandrell, Andred, Borusa> Every ep is sacred Every ep is great (Flavia, Romana II, Leela> If a story's slagged off (timetots> Fans get quite irate (Rassilon> Every ep is sacred (Jon and Kate> Every ep is good (female RADWers> Every ep is needed (male RADWers In your neighborhood (timetots> Every ep is lovely Every ep is fine (fans> We love everybody's (Pip> Mine (Jane> And mine (Terrance> And mine (Turlough, Adric, Romana I, and Ben line dancing> (Sisters of Karn> Let the trekkers worship Gene Roddenbery's mind (Dapol figures> We'd rather watch Timelash Than Star Trek: Deep Space 9 (Everyone in a big production number> Every ep is sacred Every ep is good Every ep is needed In your neighborhood Every ep is sacred Every ep is great If a story's slagged off We fans get quite irate -fin- Erin Tumilty (Tumilty@worldnet.att.net> -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Wanted: Harry Sullivan's War] ..for crimes against literature... Graham Nelson (graham@gnelson.demon.co.uk> 13/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- >"The Dimensions of Time" begins with a short scene of the TARDIS crew : >standing around looking like they've all been hit over the head. "They're >gone!" says Barbara. "And we've arrived!" replies the Doctor. Ah, that >explains everything. Ahahah! Well it could be worse - "We lived through that amazing cliffhnager haven't we!" "Yes quite, oh we won't have the bugdet to bring you good quality episodes like the last one, this serial is all down hill from here, still very gripping ending there no...(Doctor looks directly at camera) Oh and incidentally, Happy Birthday Billy." Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> 13/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- > I like "Invasion of the Dinosaurs", except for the >bits with dinosaurs in it. This is, bar none, the most perceptive critical comment ever made in the whole history of Dr Who. Ben Varkentine (saulchurch@aol.com> 13/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: how would you take over Gallifrey?] Nyctolops (nyctolops@aol.com> wrote: >Because of the elaborate defense systems around Gallifrey, your first >requirement is to get a Time Lord on your side--the higher up in the hierarchy >the better. Oh well that's that one killed before it starts. They're such an honest and well-balanced bunch up the the top of the Time Lord Greasy Pole, aren't they ? Putting aside the sarcasm, I think we can take it then that this part shouldn't be too tricky, a quick "Mad Conspiriator seeks similar. Must have own political status. Fun, conversation, days out and possible conquest of Gallifrey/relaxation of tobbaco legislation as applied to Formula One" ad in any lonely twin hearts column and we should have a legion of high councillors beating a path to our door. Richard Jones (rejone@rejoice.demon.co.uk> 14/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Jon Green wrote: >Is Timelash really in stereo as it states on the cover? Nothing else >from this period is stereo. I think stereo began in the 25th season. Twice the Tedium! Double the Dourness! Stereophonically chronic! Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 15/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Azaxyr (azaxyr@aol.com> wrote: >>why the heck would they put that line in in the >>first place? Guy Clapperton (gclapperton@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: >As a sop to the fans. It was only one line, most people hardly noticed it. >But it was a nice touch for the buffs - better than, say, basing an entire >story around something that happened in the series some 20 years >previously [96 PAGES OF ANTI-ATTACK OF THE CYBERMEN RANT EDITED HERE] I think you miss the subtleties of Saward and Levine's sinister plan. Sequels were popular, everyone knew that. Stick a bird on the hat of some bloke who'd appeared at the end of one episode in the seventies and you've got an instant classic. Take two popular and fondly remembered monsters from the seventies, completely redesign them and have them remember things that didn't happen and you've got a season opener, right there. Put a policeman in the opening shot of any serial, no matter it's content and whammo! Instant popular sequel to An Unearthly Child. But it was 1985 and time was running out. Hard to believe anyone in their right minds would write a sequel to Destiny of the Daleks, but Eric Saward was da man and had done it the year before! What was left? So Saward and Levine hit upon an idea. They wrote and produced a sequel to one of the few remaining classic stories that had only had three or four sequels already produced. And that was so long ago, they figured no one would really remember too well and thus managed to work in their true ambition of including three "Take Your Pick" doorways in Doctor Who (the result of a bet with Peter Grimwade that had gotten out of hand). But Attack of the Cybermen was a red herring. Their true villiany was exposed only a few stories later when, seemingly from nowhere, a sequel to a third Doctor and Jo story suddenly appeared, coincidentally written by an actor who'd once appeared in The Sontaran Experiment... and if anyone believed that, they'd believe the Myrka was actually written as a serious monster. Suddenly their dreams of conquest were at hand. No more rifling through the archives in search of a forgotten sixties story to write a sequel to, this way they could just write the sequel anyway and assume that only sad wankers would know the real truth. As Saward said in In-Vision, "What a piece of shit", which clearly shows how confident he felt about his grand vision. Fortunately for intelligent viewers everywhere, who were used to the quality of sequels that hiring a completely different actor and putting him in a decaying mask claiming to be Roger Delgado on a bad hair day entailed, this plan was neatly averted by John Nathan-Turner, who inadvertantly neglected to point out that the climax at the end resulted in the entire production being a prequel to Terror of the Zygons. Levine was gone within two weeks and Saward was out within a season. And the world breathed a sigh of relief, knowing that the fate of sequels was safely in the hands of professionals, who included Cybermen, because it was the silver anniversary and Cybermen were silver. Wot a lucky escape. Robert Smith? (smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca> 15/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> wrote: >>Which Enemy/Companion wore the best pants?? Timelord (timelord@mail.cth.com.au> wrote: >You gotta love the 'Andy Pandy' ones that Sarah Jane wore. Absolutely >diabolical! Yes, this is what ultimately had her banned from ever going to Gallifrey. Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> 15/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- >>Steve Roberts - if you could just arrange the recovery and video >>release of Web and Power I'd be most obliged - ta. MFitch4846 wrote: >Hell, if you can recover The Underwater Menace and The Smugglers I'd be >extremely obliged to ya. Of course if Power and Web are easier to get a hold >of, by all means... While you're at it, Steve, I wouldn't mind getting a look at the Ark of the Covenant, the Roswell aliens and, most of all, a live Dodo, please. Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 16/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Ken Mann (ken@kenelise.demon.co.uk> wrote: >You are a timelord exiled to earth. You learn that the earth, which you >have formed a sentimental attachment to, is being invaded by monsters >from outer space. Do you seek help from: >a) An international military force with access to radar, weapons, >sophisticated telecommunications and ready access to manpower and >various modes of transport. >b) The Tufty Club >c) Greenpeace >d) The Post Office (d): Because they are helpful people who can always answer a question. I'm sure the 3rd Doctor era would have greatly benefited from a more postmanistic view rather than the militaristic path it took. Indeed, think of the endless possibilities as the Doctor calls in his friends from the Post Office to defeat alien monsters. Marvel as the Doctor captures the Master and sends him second class to Swindon. Enthral as The Mutants is reduced to only 1 episode because the Doctor *posts* the Timelord message pod to Solos. Yes, a greatly missed opportunity. Marcus E. Durham (Marcus@zenn.demon.co.uk> 16/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Ken Mann (ken@kenelise.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >You are a timelord exiled to earth. You learn that the earth, which you >have formed a sentimental attachment to, is being invaded by monsters >from outer space. Do you seek help from: >a) An international military force with access to radar, weapons, >sophisticated telecommunications and ready access to manpower and >various modes of transport. >... >d) The Post Office That would be _so_ Doctor Who-ish, though. Postmen all over the country could be his informers. "That old Mr Pattison's arm is going green. It'll be another of those alien meteorites, I'll be bound..." says old Mrs Hobson at number 31, and the alert ears of the postman prick up. He could then contact the Doctor at the special postcode, TAR D1S... Graham Nelson (graham@gnelson.demon.co.uk> 16/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: Best Tom Baker Story] Adam Feindel (whytgulf@interlog.com> wrote: >Image of the Fendahl ! >This one never failed to give me the shivers. [snip] >A. Feindel No wonder, with a name like that! Ever get the feeling that generations of your forefathers have been used, simply for this purpose? Robert Smith? (smithrj2@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca> 16/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Aidan Alexander Folkes (af6715@irix.bris.ac.uk> wrote >It would appear that according to the frontispiece >of Face of The Enemy, David A. McIntee is a gestalt >entity as it says: >"The moral right of the authors has been asserted" > ^^^^^^^ >So is he a Fendahleen? We are the Borg. Your reading habits and recreation time as it has been, is over. From this time forward you will service us. Resistance is futile David McIntee (master@sol.co.uk> 17/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Zebee Johnstone (zebee@zipper.zip.com.au> wrote: >So... what's the best way to take over Gallifrey? If the Sontarans are to be believed, the best way to take over Gallifrey is to ally with a race of terminally stupid galactic conquerers, and then waltz in with three soldiers just as said allies have been utterly defeated. One should then devote one's entire resources to chasing after the president-elect in his TARDIS in order to get your hands on a superweapon so unimaginably rare that even the Ogrons have some. The scary part is that this plan nearly worked. Personally, I'd just stick to making crank calls to the President of the High Council. M. Wesley Osam (wosam@iastate.edu> 17/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- John Long wrote: >To tell the truth, it's one of those stories that I've only seen once >and that was three years ago and I don't have a copy of it. I remember >almost nothing except that I liked it at the time. Anyone feel like >reviewing Underworld for me? "Underworld" is about three people searching for the last remnants of their species (the Minyans). They're all depressed and angsty, but they keep going because "the quest is the quest," whatever that means. The Doctor and Leela arrive on their spaceship. K9 is there, too, but I'm going to ignore him because he's so stupid. The Minyans demonstrate their weapons, which have the amazing power to make Leela act like Vicki. The Doctor helps them with some kind of problem, I forget what. Then the ship crashes into a partially-formed planet and buries itself. A disembodied voice (which I assume must belong to Howard DaSilva when it's at home) says something like "The Doctor and his friends crash into the Underworld!" and is never heard from again. (I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that this detail is not on the master tape.) Inside the planet, everyone runs around some bluescreened scenery. Apparently the BBC didn't have the money to drive down to the local gravel pit this time. There's a scene where the Doctor fools around with some ventilation equipment and observes that "whatever blows can be sucked." This is the high point of the story. Some guards chase everyone around and an evil computer blows itself up. The end. M. Wesley Osam (wosam@iastate.edu> 17/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Laurence Price (laurence.price@bsm-bbs.demon.co.uk> wrote: >But if we want a "traditional" story, then I think nothing can do better than >David Whitaker's "Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with the Daleks" >(alright, the title's not up to much!). Oh come on ! That title's as pop art as Doctor Who's ever got. I love it. Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with the Keys of Marinus. Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with Light, Josiah and some husks. Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with the Master. Doctor Who in another exciting adventure with the Master. Doctor Who in yet another exciting adventure with the Master. Doctor Who's further exciting adventure with the Master. Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with the entropic death of the universe. Doctor who in an, um, adventure with the Tereleptils. Richard Jones (rejone@rejoice.demon.co.uk> 17/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- BF Elliot (bfelliott@aol.com> wrote: >You are walking past a convenience store and you hear the words "Halt, or you >will be exterminated"! You glance behind you and you see that you are being >menaced by a hideous Dalek. (Not only is it hideous, but it hasn't taken care >of its hygine like other Daleks.) >What do you do? Halt. Richard Jones (rejone@rejoice.demon.co.uk> 18/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> wrote: >>I was wrestling between Inferno and The Daemons, The Daemons lost out >>because even though it is brilliant throughout it has that completely >>unsatisfactory ending. Yes. I can't believe that a super-intelligent, highly-evolved being from an advanced civiliastion would explode just because it got a bit confused. What must life be like on Daemos? "I can't remember where I left my keys." BOOM! Sam Nelson (shadws@geocities.com> 18/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Reviewing a Doctor Who novel, Keith, is also in many ways, like making love to a beautiful woman. First you strip away the surface layers, to reveal the quivering beauty beneath. Then, you compare it to what you have seen before, and decide whether to feed it with chocolates, fine wine, what have you, or whether to just pull down its panties, depilate its undergrowth, put it over your knee and give it six of the best. The important thing, Keith, is that you don't feel guilty afterwards. Dave Owen (dave@meglos.demon.co.uk> 19/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Sam Nelson (shadws@geocities.com> wrote: >>>Yes. I can't believe that a super-intelligent, highly-evolved >>>being from an advanced civiliastion would explode just because >>>it got a bit confused. What must life be like on Daemos? >>>"I can't remember where I left my keys." BOOM! Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> wrote: >>Yes you'd think they'd wipe themselves out long before they became a >>force to threathen the galaxy. R. Smeltzer wrote: >Well, it never was explained what caused them to die out... A future incarnation of the Doctor gave them a piece of paper with 'PTO' written on both sides... Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 19/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Ken Mann (ken@kenelise.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Which reminds me, imagine for a moment that Ian Chesterton and Barbara >Wright mind their own business. The first doctor is still on earth when >two dalek battle crusiers turn up but knows nothing about daleks and the >earth is destroyed as they fight over the hand of omega, which hasn't >been programmed to do anything in particular. Remembrance of the Daleks >becomes the first and last Doctor Who story. Or as Davros might have >put it, "the plan would have worked if it wasn't for those interfering >adults". Except that, without the Doctor, life would never have begun on Earth, because Scaroth would have succeded. This would probably not translate into good television. Richard Smaltzer (mat7rs@weeds.ac.uk> 19/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Gary Russell wrote: >Which takes us back to that interesting thread about Doctor's meeting >comic characters. Delirium versus the Sixth Doctor. I like that idea. Birthday Party: A Drabble (before CoA) Peri nudged the Doctor. "Why didn't you tell me it was your birthday?" "I would have if I'd known I'd be having guests. The Endless have a habit of dropping in unannounced." Death handed a psychedelically wrapped box to the Doctor, grinning around a mouthful of chocolate cake. "I hOPe YoU liKe IT," said Delirium. " I MadE iT mySeLF. DOn't YoU juSt LUVVV rAInBowS. "Yes, I do." The Doctor removed the lid and winced at the garish coat inside. "Though I've never seen quite so many in one place." Destiny turned to him. "You will find it useful. . .one day." Erin Tumilty 20/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- BF Elliot wrote: >>>You are walking past a convenience store and you hear the words "Halt, or >>>you will be exterminated"! You glance behind you and you see that you are >>>being menaced by a hideous Dalek. (Not only is it hideous, but it >>>hasn't taken care of its hygine like other Daleks.) >>Run up the nearest flight of stairs, taunt it, and throw heavy objects, >>such as pianos, at its head. Aidan Alexander Folkes (af6715@irix.bris.ac.uk> wrote: >Then you discover it's got a fork lift truck and is coming after you. "I say old chap, have you got a license to drive that thing?" "SHUT-UP-OR-YOU-WILL-BE-EX-TER-MI-NA-TED!" "But weren't you about to do that anyway?" "WHY-DON'T-YOU-ASK-ME-IN-STEAD-WHERE-ON- EARTH-I-GOT-A-FORK-LIFT-BUILT-FOR-A-DA-LEK!" Azaxyr (azaxyr@aol.com> 21/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frankham (danielf@auslink.net> wrote >It might save a lot of angst if we just scrap all of these disputed >titles, and come up with some new, less disputed, ones. Just as the >early episodes of Red Dwarf are now being remade in the image of >Season VII, I propose that we give the early Whos new titles in the >style of the later series... How 'bout if Chris Bidmead was script editor from day one: Season 1 Earth Skaro TARDIS Earth Again Marinus Earth Again Again Sensesphere Earth Again Again Again Season 2 Earth Again Again Again Again Earth Again Again Again Again Again Dido Earth Again Again Again Again Again Again Vortis Earth Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Xeros Aridius (with bits of Earth Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again) I mean I could go on... until: The TVM Earth Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Again Terry Joynson (joynson@livia.demon.co.uk> 22/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- [Subject: Re: 100,000 BC] Steven K. Manfred (stevenma@pressenter.com> wrote: >It's my opinion that it's just a show, and you should really just >relax. :) >T/A, "Mission to the Unknown," btw I think peri's entire run on the series should be counted as one story called T/A Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> 22/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- The thing I always loved about Target books was the printers' codes on the bottom of every twentieth (or so) page. It had the initials of the title of the book. My favourite: DWATPOTS. It's a word that has haunted me ever since... is that a rustling of wind through the trees, or an unearthly voice whispering... DWATPOTS... Conrad Feinson (ACFeinson@compuserve.com> 23/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Pete Galey (psg23@cam.ac.uk> wrote: >I think "The Five Doctors" should have been called "Doctor Who in an >exciting adventure with Doctor Who in an exciting adventure with Doctor >Who in an exciting but brief adventure with Doctor Who in an exciting >adventure with someone who looks a bit like Doctor Who if you squint. >And are drunk". I think Richard Hurndall did a very fine job as the First Doctor. I mean who else could have been cast into the role? Charles Daniels (charlesd@calweb.com> 23/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Gary Russell (gary@dircon.co.uk> wrote: >Depending on how well the book sells decides whether you can take long >holidays in the Meditteranean or, like everyone working on Who-rlated >stuff, you stare wistfully out of rain-soaked windows and wonder what it's >like to travel on one of those big metal bird-like things that zoom around >in the sky. *Windows?* You can afford *Windows*? With proper glass and everything? Dave Stone (dave@sgloomi.demon.co.uk> 23/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Dangermouse (master@sol.co.uk> wrote: >Mind you the problem here is that my reputation for in-jokes is now so >entrenched that that people will see anything vaguely familiar as a >deliberate in-joke, even if it isn't! That's a reference to something, isn't it? Can't pu my finger on it though... Conrad Feinson (ACFeinson@compuserve.com> 23/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Peter Anghelides wrote: >If the "official" renaming makes it difficult to >remember or understand, what's the point? Even [...] >Make it nice and clear, I say. >Peter Anghelides >(Author of "Kursaal, pages 1 to 282") I think you'll find that's "Werewolf Cutaway". :-) Rob Stradling (templar@babylon.org> 26/1/98 -------------------------------------------------- Azaxyr (azaxyr@aol.com> wrote: >>Imagine that... Kate and Jon are on vacation and the >>newsgroup is in a state of harmony. >>Coincidence...? (crossapple@earthlink.net> wrote: >Yes. Was that the Aye of Harmony? Steve Biggs (smb@mfltd.co.uk> 27/1/98 --------------------------------------------------Continue onto the next Quote file (Feb/March 1998)
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